JoeR

Keeping the Toons Looking Great

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the cleaners do not polish your aluminum... it will make your pontoons a whiteish color.  Sharkhide protects AFTER you polish... if you are just going to use the cleaner/brightener then you should search for pics online so you know what is going to happen.  I don't think it's cosmetically appealing.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ITtDRJOnroZlZSVHdwYzJGQkU/view?usp=docslist_api

This is my pontoons after acid wash. Not my preferred look but that is a different story.  If all you do is acid wash, that link will show you what it will look like. There is Sharkhide on there too, but that really doesn't change what the acid wash will do. Only way to reverse what the acid wash does is to polish and as others will tell you,  is not exactly fun. 

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2 hours ago, keithkz said:

Zing is a waste of time except to clean some MILD stuff off the toons.  It doesn't do anything for protecting them. Get Sharkhide...period.

FAAbaddog: Sharkhide works IF store boat on LIFT or TRAILER. It doesn't maintain itself if stored in the water. PER CLINT at SHARKHIDE. (just got off phone with him!)

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OK, thanks so much for the insight and tips on log cleaners...the 20SL has been used in the salt waters of Gulf Shores, AL for two + years now...and will continue to be used by me now on the bay/Inter-coastal waters off of Pensacola Beach, FL where it will be trailered in my 1st tier house driveway...

Any particular advice regarding operating my 20SL in those conditions that ya'll could share?

Thanks in advance!

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I didn't order it from the factory with it. I have a 2016 20SL with 25" toons will one quart be enough? Will it matter that I cant get the underside of the toons as it will be sitting on the trailer?

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1 hour ago, Rattletrap said:

I didn't order it from the factory with it. I have a 2016 20SL with 25" toons will one quart be enough? Will it matter that I cant get the underside of the toons as it will be sitting on the trailer?

If I remember correctly,  1 quart of Sharkhide will do 2 coats and leave some left over for touch up. The parts that you cannot get are more or less irrelevant.  Even if you could get the bottom of the pontoons,  putting it on and taking it off the trailer will rub it off. 

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On April 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Kells said:

Woke up at 4am, focused on 1 pontoon.... spent 2 hours Dremel polishing the areas around the welds that the polishing glides over, then removing the dust and compound in 25 degree weather, decided to give it another pass with the polisher using the Mothers Mag polish (couldn't find the billet locally). Spent another hour removing the final compound and dust.
found that there is still residue from the Acetone which takes a lot of elbow grease to remove with a cotton diaper so I attached the cotton to my polisher and buffed it out while removing all the excess film / haze, touched up spots with the acetone then it started snowing hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Waited 3 hours for snow to stop... went outside wiped the toon down again with a new cotton diaper and applied the sharkhide at 34 degrees.  

It leaves a rainbow sheen when applied to mirror finishes, you can kind of see it in these pics...  

About 3 hours after applying the sharkhide we got freezing rain :wacko:

I really hope the stuff cured!!! Here are the pics AFTER the freezing rain onslaught.

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Can you see the temporary rainbow sheen?

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Welds up close, notice the rainbow on the right? 

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THIS IS A PIC OF THE OTHER SIDE AT THE SAME TIME, BEFORE THE FINAL DETAIL AND CUT ESSENTIAL A BEFORE AND AFTER...

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Is the mothers mag and aluminum polish messy like the gords product?  I've been using Gords and it would be nice to not have to cover everything because of the spray.  Also, any tips on getting the "black stuff" off after buffing before sharkhide?  I feel like I"be been rubbing for hours and the paper towels still have black on them.  Thanks

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On May 14, 2014 at 9:16 PM, kaydano said:

My process???

 

1) Buy a bunch of sh!t.

2) Buy some more sh!t.

3) Get up early and go outside

4) P!ss off the neighbors running grinder for 10 hours.

5) Swear a few times

6) Finally come inside after its getting dark and look in a mirror and see a white guy who is now a black guy.

7) Say "hi" to the wife and realize your voice sounds funny since your vocal cords are covered in black stuff.

8) Take three showers, the last using lanolin hand cleaner for shampoo and the kitchen scrub brush on your face.

9) Have lots of beer because your back hurts so bad you can barely stand up anyway.  Might as well drink heavily.

10) Go outside on second morning and realize you are not even done with the first pontoon.  Mutter "Jesus Christ there are THREE of them".

11) Bitch and cuss before you get started, just to get it out of the way early.

12) Use a mask this time so your not breathing tiny microscoping black aluminum particles.

13) Listen to neighbors crack funny jokes.  Tell them you are here all week and tip the waitresses.

14) Get grinder caught in the tricky spots because you did all the easy parts yesterday.

15) Guess how many times that will happen before you drop and break the grinder.

16) Start to tell yourself no one can see BOTH pontoons at the same time, so no one will know if you quit half way through.

17) Cuss out guys on forum that talked you into doing this (ha ha)

18) Put shark hide on.  Glue fingers together.

19) Use rubber gloves to put shark hide on.

20) Realize the "black" stuff magically appears when you put on shark hide

21) Make up some new swear words

22) Grind off all the shark hide and start over

23) Realize you are on day 3 after seeing same neighbors walking their dog for the sixth time

24) Swear you will never do this again.

25) Swear you will finish it this fall.

26) Realize you can't even see your pontoons when you are inside the boat.

27) Take photos for the forum from far enough away that no one can see what it REALLY looks like.

28) Take boat back to marina.

29) Throw grinder in fire pit.

30) Log in and tell Jared there's no way in hell you'll do his pontoons.

Kaydano, holy shit!  I had tears running down my face as I was reading the steps to my wife.  I polished my toons 3 years ago and I felt like I was reliving those painful 3 days all over again.  My neighbor still laughs about the way my face looked the first day.  I had no idea I was turning black until I looked into a mirror.  It's great blowing black snot for 2 days.

I didn't put sharkhide on my toons so now they look horrible again.  I've started the process again with my left over Gords and plan to use sharkhide after.  I hope the polishing will be over after this.  First toon took 3.5 hours.  Still trying to get the black stuff off to apply SH.

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Glad you enjoyed it!

I forgot about blowing black snot for days. I should add that one to the list.

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On ‎5‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 3:18 PM, tyjy said:

FAAbaddog: Sharkhide works IF store boat on LIFT or TRAILER. It doesn't maintain itself if stored in the water. PER CLINT at SHARKHIDE. (just got off phone with him!)

 

I would argue with Clint on this because my boat is kept in the water at my dock during the boating season.  I applied Sharkhide metal protectant 2 years ago after I polished my toons.  I didn't apply any last year.  I did put a coat of it on again 2 weeks ago before placing my boat in the water for the season (that was my plan all along....reapply every other year).  My toons still look every bit as good as they did 2 years ago.  During the offseason it is stored on my trailer in an indoor heated building.  When I pull it out in the fall I immediately power wash the little bit of algae off of the toons which is an effortless job because the Sharkhide makes the algae come right off.....takes me no longer than 15 minutes to power wash all 3 toons off.

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On 5/16/2016 at 8:49 PM, tbarile said:

Is the mothers mag and aluminum polish messy like the gords product?  I've been using Gords and it would be nice to not have to cover everything because of the spray.  Also, any tips on getting the "black stuff" off after buffing before sharkhide?  I feel like I"be been rubbing for hours and the paper towels still have black on them.  Thanks

I haven't used the Gords... this is not messy, it's the consistency of toothpaste.

I went through 24 rolls of paper towel and 3 gallons of acetone... In the beginning the black stuff never ends, but after the 4th round of polishing it was significantly less...

 

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Wanted to follow back up with everyone curious about the Sharkhide and how it holds up after checking out the pics I took above (BEFORE) this summer of boating.

I took the boat out 2 weeks ago, powerwashed it, and 90% of the pontoons look exactly as they did above.

The only issues is where I had some "bumper burn" from my dock that dulled the finish kinda like a haze... and the worst part of of the haze in the center was just a little darker from oxidation of the aluminum.

I also noticed a little streak where I missed with the sharkhide which is now dull grey due to oxidation, and essentially what the entire pontoon would have looked like if I had not applied the sharkhide.

My boat guy was very impressed... he said he had a guy mirror his pontoons, then just dropped it in the water... the mirror was gone by the end of the week!  

I'll get some pics uploaded... now that i'm not as busy boating, I can post more ;)

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I can't believe you pulled out only a couple weeks ago. Mine has been out since September due to the lake level being dropped. Looking forward to the photos as well.

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How in the world did you have low lake levels this year....especially in August/September???  This was the one year we actually had nice and high levels on our chain of lakes due to all the rain.

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I am disappointed in my toons condition because of the application quality of the Sharkhide.  There are multiple swirl marks from where it was applied with a cloth and the level of coating changed as they went along.  Dealer, of course, says it is not a permanent coating and subject to abrasion, rubbing etc. etc. The center toon at stern is darker than the outers.  I even sent her pics.  I think they did it at dealer and she doesn't want to own it.  It is going back for warranty service in Jan. and i will show her in person and we'll see what happens.  Pics in gallery.  As much as i'd like nice shiny toons, i like being on the water more.  And of course, there is always too much other shit to do around the house, cars, property, family....  

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11 hours ago, keithkz said:

How in the world did you have low lake levels this year....especially in August/September???  This was the one year we actually had nice and high levels on our chain of lakes due to all the rain.

Our lake is dam controlled and every other fall they draw the water down 3' so you can work on your seawall a etc. this year they said they had to do some repairs to the dam before it got cold so they drained it early. Then in the spring it comes back up. 

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