Thanks, we just returned on the 20th and i missed your recommendation, we left on the 13th. We stayed at Flat Hollow Marina on a friends advice, it wasn't without some issues but we all have our issues. Next time we might try Shanghai, i would like to be closer to the dam, and check out that end of the lake, will keep BIM in mind. We went up river from FHM one day and then spent the rest of the time between FHM and Shanghai. Totally awesome lake. I put that one on my places to retire at list.