Prop Suggestion - 22svsr Yamaha 200

[robburns76]

Boat should be here next month. Not sure what the dealer is going to recommend putting on there but i thought i would get the advice from all of you so that i am knowledgeable going into it. It is a 22svsr with the SPS tritoon package and Yamaha f200 2.8 4cyl. not super worried about top speed, but speed is always nice . will mostly be pulling tubes or wakeboard. Which props would you recommend and why?

Thanks in Advance
Rob

 

[Vikingstaff]

Boat should be here next month. Not sure what the dealer is going to recommend putting on there but i thought i would get the advice from all of you so that i am knowledgeable going into it. It is a 22svsr with the Yamaha 200. not super worried about top speed, but speed is always nice . will mostly be pulling tubes or wakeboard. Which props would you recommend and why?

Thanks in Advance
Rob

Do you have the SPS tritoon hull? Also, Yamaha f200 or SHO 200? Important variables in getting the best advice. In the meantime, I point you towards some of the forums and threads listed below. However, generally for your boat and motor, I would say for brand of prop EITHER an SWSII or Enertia. Both give great performance, minimal slip. Both are known to provide both decent hole shot, as well as nice top speed at WOT. Those are consistently top performers for that HP and higher.

As for pitch, that will depend most on what specific 200HP Yamaha motor you have…assuming you have the SPS or ESP hull.

Browse numerous threads about props and performance. You can search for advice to this already asked question:
Member Zone: Props and Power

You can browse through for Bennington’s that most closely match yours to see what they have for a prop and what their performance is with it:
List Your Specs Here

I have a 16p Enertia prop on my 200HP Mercury Verado Pro. But my 200Hp is a 6cyl with a supercharger. Going to be closer to what you would prop an SHO 200. For an f200, which is a 4cyl, you’d want a different size.

 

[robburns76]

thanks, i knew i would be missing something when posting. I looked at the first couple of pages and didn't see any that really matched. i'll scroll through that other thread. I've updated my post with the additional info as well

 

[Michiman]

Vikingstaff offer’s some great advice. Unfortunately, one potential problem might be the availability of the correct prop due to, you guessed it, supply chain issues.

 

[Michiman]

Rob, you might also consider contacting Ken @ propgods. He’s helped several other folks on this site.

 

[claustralia]

We have the Reliance SDS 14.5x15 on our Yamaha F200. It’s a 23LSB and we have hit 41.9mph. Pulls tubes and waterski no problem.

 

[Angela & Michael]

Your dealer most likely will and should know what is needed. Prop gods are good, but your dealer is right there. Enjoy that new boat!

 

[Vikingstaff]

Your dealer most likely will and should know what is needed. Prop gods are good, but your dealer is right there. Enjoy that new boat!

I am highly suspect of the “trust your dealer to propping your boat” adivce.

Too many examples of various dealers not doing so properly by too many over the years. I have no doubt some are rather good at it. However, with the variety and diversity of dealers out there (and their dealership situations), nuanced differences in the rapidly specialized pontoon builds we have these days, and the massive differences in intended boat use by owners complicating it even further, I’d always strongly recommend doing a bit of homework on one’s own part.

Just a simple search in these forums shows so many instances of the “cheapest” prop being put on, or whatever is sitting on the shelf that “fits“ the basic set up of the boat, or putting on a prop that is a “jack of all trades” but not a “specialists at anything” (which I kind of get without prior direction from a customer).

I would not at all simply trust the dealer to “know” what is needed. My dealer was close, but still didn’t get it right, AND I provided pre-order guidance on intended usage and prop. Instead, they put on what THEY thought was best. Performance was decently UNDER what one could have expected from my tritoon and motor combo. It then took some “push” from me to get them to allow me to test other options. Sure enough, first alternative test prop and performance jumped SIGNIFICANTLY.

 

[dieselman]

Reliance SDS 14.5x15 is the prop for that boat /motor

 

[Potomacbassin’]

The Reliance is made for I4 engines so the 14.5 x 15 is a great starting point. It may end up being the ideal prop but I would test one or two others since you have a higher HP variant.

You should be able to push a 14.25 x 17 Reliance which will get you more top speed, but you'll lose some lower end bite and fuel efficiency. And the 14.7 x 16 Enertia / Q3 prop that Viking mentioned should also give you good results, although my guess is it'll be slightly over-propped and your max WOT will be in the low-5000 range.

If inventory is low the dealer may throw a Solas prop on there which aren't horrible, but the Yamaha and Mercury props should be your target.

 

[bezimmer]

My dealer used trial and error to select the prop for my '23 L22FSB. I've got a 200 VMAX SHO and the boat is a tritoon with SPS with lifting strakes and Wavetamer. Other than displacement and weight of the motors, our rigs sound pretty similar depending on how your tubes are configured. Your motor produces 200 HP @ 5500 RPM and the max RPM range on the I-4 is 5000-6000, so WOT in that range should be a fundamental goal. The dealer selected a 14.25"/17P SS SDS prop. I'm happy with the results: 44 mph (GPS) @5700 RPM. Hole shot is under 3 seconds. The same dealer sold me my last boat, a 22' Cobalt, and it did 50 mph with only a 240 HP Volvo-Penta I/O. I guess the rule of thumb is +/- 100-200 RPM's up or down per change in inch of pitch. Bottom line, I don't think there's any substitute for doing a "real world" test on your actual boat and motor combo. Good luck and enjoy the new boat!

 

[bezimmer]

Didn't notice the age of this thread before posting - just out of curiosity, what did you end up getting?

 

[Potomacbassin’]

Your 200 is a V6 so that Reliance prop is undersized. Given your comments that you are happy with it I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but you could step up to a bigger prop and get more low and mid-range.

I had a Reliance prop put on my boat by the dealer and it too did OK with top speed, but it had poor holeshot and fuel efficiency vs my current Enertia prop. Just food for thought.

 

[bezimmer]

Thanks for the comment/thoughts. Are you suggesting that I go to something like a 15" and keep the pitch at 17? They measured hole shot. When I trialed the boat, I was amazed at how well it did out of the hole (lifting strakes?). Too early to tell about mid-range or fuel performance. I've only got 4 hours on it!

 

[Potomacbassin’]

The Reliance prop has a smaller diameter to allow lower torque engines to spin up to the target RPM range. It's especially effective on lighter planing hulls, but with heavy pontoons they slip a lot. The 17 pitch will eventually get you some decent top speed so no concerns there.

Think of the analogy of tires on a powerful car - if you put very skinny ones on you'll lose traction for a while until you finally build up forward speed. Same with a small diameter prop, it's not gripping enough water to overcome the weight of our hulls and results in "slip".

Given you have a strong V6 you can move into a different design of prop - higher diameter with similar pitch. I think member Vikingstaff has a 200HP Mercury and swings a 16p Enertia. I run a 17p Enertia with a 250 v6 but that's likely going to be too much for you. Even a Yamaha Salt Water 2 prop in 15 or 16p will give you a lot more grip (and quicker hole shot and much better fuel efficiency) while not sacrificing much speed, if any at all.

If you plan on loading up the boat with people or towing skiers/tubes you'll notice it even more.

The Reliance is fine - there are just better options given your engine. It's been proven over and over in the real world and by many, many members on this forum. If you have the opportunity to try another larger diameter prop I would do so, and record the results in 500rpm increments. I bet you find that all the way up to 5000rpm the bigger prop will outperform the Reliance, and only at the very top of the range could there be a slight difference.

 

[Vikingstaff]

Chimming in. I have a 24’ with the SPS hull you have, and a v6 200 hp Mercury Verado Pro (supercharger, so perfromance version like your VMax). I run the 16p Enertia. Dialed upward from the 14 and then the 15. The Enertia prop is going to be a better match for your boat and motor from a performance perspective just as Potomacbassin’ mentioned. We are pretty similar for boats and size in MANY respects, so if you even contemplate any trial of it, I would start with the 16p.

I had to real world test to dial mine in, and your performance with that reliance is solid. So like Poto mentioned, I’m not trying to persuade you to change it up. IF you were to do so at all, just chiming in as we are running similar boats and style of motor. The Enertia should be better performance across the entire RPM band AND not have the same slippage issues as the Reliance. I also agree with Poto that it may be most noticeable when loaded up with more people and gear and/or combining that with water sports.